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Evidence now suggests that when we think of the
"Roswell UFO crash" that we should not just think of crash sites that
were located within relatively close proximity to one another. We should also
consider a possibly related site located much farther away - within West
Central New Mexico. It is a highly significant site for it is there where it
was reported that the corpses of interplanetary pilots were found.
A
boost has now been given to the credibilty of the famous but contentious
"Barney Barnett" story of a UFO crash in New Mexico's "Plains of
San Augustin" region. Fresh evidence supporting this event comes from:
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A recent interview with a decorated Colonel about his talk with witness Barney
Barnett
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A possible confirmaton of Barney Barnett's encounter by Intelligence Agent and
Roswell witness Jesse Marcel Sr.
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Telling information about another crash site with bodies, provided by Jesse
Marcel's Sr.'s daughter-in-law to this author
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The stunning discovery of a Harvard University document about archaeologists at
the scene of the reported crash. The document exposes the archaeologist who is
now found to have lied to researchers that he was not there and that he had
seen nothing.
Considered
together, this information points to another crash event that may have in some
way been associated with the Roswell incident. But this site may be of equal or
greater interest and importance than the ones commonly discussed. This is
because at this site a strange metallic disk was rested, cracked on a flat
desert floor. Aside it and inside it were strewn the smallish bodies of the
unearthly.
BRINGING
BACK BARNEY
Grady
L. "Barney" Barnett was highly-regarded as an official of long
standing with the US Soil Conservation Service in New Mexico. His story was
first related in the first book on Roswell, "The Roswell Incident"
published in 1980 and authored by William Moore and Charles Berlitz, with the
assistance of Stanton Friedman. Today the Barnett story remains largely
ignored, forgotten or discredited as it does not neatly "fit" into
the Roswell story and locations as told today.
Barnett
had related to some friends that while out working on projects around the
Plains of San Augustin (also spelled San Agustin) he had encountered a
disk-shaped spaceship the color of dirty stainless steel, about twenty or
thirty feet in diameter. While examining the disk, a small group of university
research archaeologists on a dig had arrived and had also encountered the crash
and corpses.
The
bodies were entirely unlike anything that Barnett and his companions had ever
seen. They had huge hairless heads and were outfitted in one-piece grayish
suits with no belts or zippers. According to information provided by Barnett's
friends and associates (who spoke publicly about the event after his death)
soldiers then soon arrived. A cordon was put in place around the crash site and
the civilians were admonished that it was their duty to country not to say
anything to anyone of what they had seen.
Although
the time frame of Barnett's encounter was similar to Roswell's, Barnett had
placed his sighting of the downed craft and pilots over 200 miles from Roswell-
in the "Plains of San Augustin" region of New Mexico. The machine was
split open upon explosion or impact. Barnett got close enough to see what the
creature pilots looked like, but he did not touch them. He said that there were
like humans but not humans, small by our standards. They seemed to be males,
and their were a number of them. The eyes were oddly spaced. Barnett told his
friends that then military officers drove up to the scene and told the assembled
to leave. They were escorted off of the site and were told to say nothing ever
of what they had witnessed.
Barnett's
story first came to light through researcher Stanton Friedman. After a talk
Friedman had given at Bemidji State College in October, 1978 (before all of the
Roswell books) he was approached by Vern Maltais and his wife Jean. The Maltais
couple related to Friedman a story that they were told many years prior by one
Grady "Barney" Barnett: A flying saucer had fallen and their friend
confessed that he saw it.
Many
people have spoken very well of Grady "Barney" Barnett, who died in
1969:
VERN
& JEAN MALTAIS
Vern
Maltais and his wife Jean say that in February of 1950, Barney told them a
story about an incredible UFO crash event that had happened just "a few
years prior" in the New Mexico desert. He provided to them details about
his encounter, including viewing bodies that were not human. He said to Maltais
that the bodies were very thin, three and a half to four feet tall and that
there were four of them. Maltais also said that Barney spoke of arriving
archaeologists to the crash scene.
Though
an incredible story, they believed Barney. That is because they knew Barnett to
be a believable man. And he was. He was a WW I Army Vet, later employed by the
US Government in a responsible position performing inspection and field
engineering services for many years. A church-going Presbyterian and Board
Member of the Socorro Electric Co-op, he was highly regarded by those in his
community. Lee Garner, a former Mayor of Socorro, speaks of Barney as a
truthful and trustworthy man.
JAMES
& BETH DANLEY
Barney's
boss during the 1940s and 1950s was James "Fleck" Danley. Danley was
on the Water Conservation Board in Magdalena, NM. Danley and Danley's wife Beth
recall Barney fondly and favorably as well. But they go one step further and
recall the time when Barney quietly told about the UFO crash, corroborating the
Maltais couple's claim. Fleck explained in an interview in 1979 (again, before
all of the Roswell books) that Barney had mentioned to him his witnessing of a
crashed flying saucer. Some years later Fleck described Barney "one of the
most honest men I ever knew. I never knew Barney to lie. Not about
anything."
HOWARD
BACA
Barney's
neighbor and close friend Harold Baca also indicates that he too was privately
related this crash story by Barney. Barney brought it up in connection with the
cancer that he was battling in 1967. Barney told Baca about the crash from
decades prior. He had expressed to Bace a concern: by bending over the debris
and bodies, Barney was fearful that he may have inhaled something toxic while
leaning over the crash site. He felt that it may have been related to the
respiratory cancer he was currently suffering. Baca once asked Barney's wife
about the crash site: "Was Barney hallucinating or what?" Ruth
replied: "Oh no! It really happened there out on the Plains twenty years
ago! But we just do not talk about it much anymore" Baca explains,
"We had other things to do at that time. We were raising a family of four
and I just didn't discuss it anymore with them. It wasn't until later on that I
grasped what the man had seen. He died and I regretted not getting more
information."
ALICE
KNIGHT
Barney's
niece, Alice Knight, is more specific about when the crash happened. She
indicated that she has known of the crash that involved Barney for many, many
decades. She states that she and her new husband John Braxton had visited
Socorro and Uncle Barney on Thanksgiving in 1947. She said that the event had
happened "only several months before" (likely the summer of that
year) and that her Uncle was "still nervous" about the possibility of
"military showing up." She thought he was "on a road near the
Plains of San Augustin." She said that Barney had mentioned encountering
"some folks on a dig" while at the crash site. We will soon see just
who was there "on a dig" later in this article. Barney's niece also
mentioned that her Aunt (Barney's wife Ruth) once confided to her about Barney:
"After that thing in '47, Barney was not quite himself."
We
are presented with Barney's boss, a close relative, a neighbor, and a friend
who all independently tell the story of Barney's alien ordeal. Researcher Art
Campbell wonders: "What factors but Barney's honesty and sincerity would
compel Barney's friends and relatives to tell the same lifelong story without
variance amid much inconvenience, with nothing to gain?"
Though
Barney's wife Ruth maintained a diary, it does not mention this crash event,
but it does confirm that Barney was out on the Plains on July 2 of 1947. Why
this crash revelation was not mentioned in the diary is understandable. It is
not something that you want to commit to print. It would be too
incrimiminating. Putting it on paper would be risky. Alice Knight said that
Barney and Ruth agreed to never write anything down about the event. Just like
those at Roswell with no known diaries describing the crash event, the Barnett
encounter would not be found in any diary. But some who were entrusted would be
imparted this information. It was told to only a very few - to those who would
only relate what they knew when Barney himself was dead.
A
COLONEL'S CONFIRMATION: BARNEY TOLD THE TRUTH
William
Leed retired as a Colonel of the U.S. Army and has a very interesting tale to
tell about Barney Barnett. Highly decorated, Leed served at Ft. Hood and other
locations and was in the Signal Corps. He left active duty in 1995. Leed's
story about Barnett's UFO crash experience adds to the information provided by
the Maltais couple, the Danley couple, Barney's neighbor and Barney's niece.
Some years ago, Leed contacted researcher Stanton Friedman after becoming aware
of Friedman's research on Barney Barnett and the Plains UFO crash. Leed
indicated that he had actually met Barney Barnett back in the 1960s. Leed is
consistent in his story, and recounts accurately to me what he told Stanton
Friedman two decades ago.
With
assistance from researcher Art Campbell (who provided several of the photos for
this article) this author interviewed Leed a few months ago by telephone at
Leed's upstate New York home. What Leed has to say supports the veracity of
Barney Barnett and the likely truth of the story he told.
When
Leed was a First Lieutenant in the mid-1960s, the subject of UFOs arose amongst
Leed and a few officers. Leed told me that a superior officer then approached
him to tell him a little more about the subject. Leed says that the officer
then confidentially took Leed aside and told him that if he wanted to know that
truth about UFOs, he should track down a a person named Mr. Barney Barnett of
Socorro, New Mexico. Barnett, he was told, "was a man who had touched
one."
In
the summer of 1967, Leed began a quest to research Barnett's whereabouts and to
meet with him. Leed had located Barney's address and began a vacation-adventure
throughout the Southwest that would include a stop to Barney's house. Pulling
up to Barney's modest house in a non air-conditioned car, Leed recalls, he was
a bit shy and nervous about actually approaching Barney at his home. Mustering
the courage, he was greeted kindly by Barnett, by then very thin and frail, who
invited him in. Leed cautiously began to introduce himself. Leed was asked by
Barney to show some ID- and Leed showed him his military ID, but said that his
interest was strictly personal. He then began to inquire about what he had
heard- that Barney saw a crashed UFO many years ago. He was there for less than
15 minutes and took up more time with "tourist talk" and less than
five minutes on the crashed UFO subject. Leed said to me that Barney confirmed
that a disc-type aircraft had crashed and that he came across it unexpectedly.
Barney confirmed to Leed - without ambiguity - that he believed it to have been
the crash of a flying saucer, not something from Earth. Barney appeared
somewhat nervous and indicated to Leed that he had been visited before by
military about the event.
Leed
(who in my interview of him seemed very frank and articulate) explained to me
that he believed that Barney was telling the absolute truth as he remembered
it. Leed said that he knew this because of Barney's anxious but sincere look
and demeanor. Leed sensed that Barney may have feared that he was being interrogated
or intimidated by military visits (something it is said that did happen to
Barney in intervening years). Leed told me that it was not his objective to
obtain "every little detail" about Barney's experience, but rather
what Leed wanted to do most was to get a sense of his basic honesty. Leed said:
"I am satisfied that Barney was telling the truth. That's all I wanted to
know, and I left."
AN
ARCHAEOLOGIST COVERS UP
The
presence of archaeologists at the scene of a UFO crash site is a recurring
theme when studying the Roswell incident. Barney Barnett had also reported the
presence of archaeologists. Researchers such Kevin Randle, Tom Carey and Don
Schmitt began to comb through dig records and university archives to contact
any archaeologists who may have been working in New Mexico in early July of
1947, the time period associated with the crashed saucer. They wanted to reach
them to see if any of them had ever seen any such crash sites in NM during that
time period. They were able to interview many of those who were still living.
While
considering various archaeologists, researchers uncovered Harvard-trained Dr
Herbert Dick. Dick was a noted archaeologist who passed away in 1992. Some
years before his death however, he was located and questioned. Dick
categorically denied that he had ever worked around the Plains of San Augustin
region in July of 1947. Dick had told researchers he had not been there,
telling one of them, "If I knew anything I would have told you." One
of his dig party, Jeff Morris, also denied it. These denials were reported in
early 1990's issues of the publication IUR - International UFO Reporter and
elsewhere.
It
turns out though that Dick had lied to these researchers when he was
interviewed by them. In 2006 a revealing letter was uncovered by researcher Art
Campbell. Campbell has been active in the UFO field for decades, including with
NICAP. He is the author of "UFO Crash at San Augustin" and maintains the UFO
Crash Book website. The documents that he discovered confirm that Dick had not
told the truth. Dick was in fact at the Plains at the very time that he said
that he was not.
Campbell
recently shared with me the correspondence that Dick had sent to his graduate
advisor at Harvard at the time. By working with the Peabody Museum of Harvard
University (from which Dick graduated with his PhD) copies of these letters
were obtained. A December, 1947 letter confirms that Dick had indeed conducted
site investigations there in the Plains specifically during the weeks of July
1-14, 1947. In the letter - and in direct contradiction to what he had
repeatedly told researchers - Dick clearly states that: "Our party
proceeded to the Plains of San Augustin on July 1, 1947...we spent two weeks
carefully contouring, mapping and trenching."
And
Dick must have remembered this time period well. This is because in other
letters that he authored that were discovered, we learn that he had vied for
that very dig trip and time frame against a competing student. He even wrote
his graduate advisor on why he should be selected over his competitor to go to
New Mexico. If Dick could clinch permission from Harvard Administration for
this dig on the Plains during early July, he knew that it would propel him above
his competing colleagues at Harvard. In fact, it did. That very work set the
course for a very notable professional career.
Dick
curiously mentions the "Bat Cave" during his expedition there.
Smaller caves near the "Bat Cave" are rumored to have held some of
the crash debris reportedly hidden by a rancher, Dan Richards.
A
thorough search of records finds that no other group of archaeologists were
working on the Plains in early July of 1947 except Herbert Dick and party - and
Dick lied that he was even there. Lies are used to cover up the truth by those
who wish to evade it. To have ever spoken of the event, Dick may have felt that
he could have risked a security breach, his own professional advancement,
future professional credibility, award of grant monies or - later in life -
damage to his impressive professional legacy.
Dick's
unqualified denials cannot be chalked up to the possibility that Dick had
somehow "forgotten" or "confused" the dates. Dick's denial
was instead intentional. It was meant to deceive. This was his very first major
archaeological expedition. It was one that he coveted and for which he had
competed- and the one which careened his career. And Dick was an historical
thinker. By his nature - and as an archaeologist - he was the type who gave
careful attention to dates and details. But his accuracy did not extend to his
recounting of the crash event on the Plains.
Of
course the site closer to Roswell also claims its own involved archaeologist,
Dr. Curry Holden. Holden was implicated in the discovery of a UFO crash site
associated directly with the Roswell event. But Holden was in a different
region of New Mexico when he made his discovery. Is it possible that the crash
at that time involved very far-flung materials within the State? Could two
different dig parties have located two separate (or maybe related) crashed UFO
debris sites? Perhaps so. For who else but people like archaeologists and
paleontologists or rock hunters and ranchers roam the remote New Mexican
deserts to find such things?
DID
MARCEL KNOW ABOUT BARNEY?
In
an email to this author, Roswell Major Jesse Marcel's daughter-in-law (Linda
Marcel) confirmed that at the end of his life Jesse has spoken of another crash
site with bodies. And a careful re-reading of a transcript by this author of
one of the very first recorded interviews of Intelligence Officer Marcel is
revealing. Marcel makes a cryptic mention of another, similar site that was
found much farther away and to the west of the site that he had investigated.
He said that a "surveyor" there had also come across UFO crash
debris! Marcel may well have been alluding to surveyor Barney Barnett.
Jesse
Marcel Sr. (who testified that he had witnessed and handled ET debris near
Roswell) told his family that there was more than one "Roswell"
related crash site. He also confirmed that - through an entrusted source - he
had learned there were in fact recovered bodies at another site.
This
revelation was made to me in an email dated September 02, 2007 from Linda
Marcel. Linda was Jesse Marcel Sr's daughter-in-law and wife to Jesse's son,
Jesse Jr. She wrote to me in part: "As far as we know, Jesse Sr. never saw
any bodies. I asked him and he told me no. He said that he was at the 'first'
crash site and that there were no bodies. He said though that he did know someone
who did see the bodies. He said that it was someone he trusts. He never said
who."
We
learn more about this - and its potential tie to Barnett - in one of the first
interviews that Marcel ever granted on the Roswell subject. The late reporter
and UFO researcher Bob Pratt conducted a recorded interview with Jesse Marcel,
Sr. on December 8, 1978. Pratt found Marcel to be "a very impressive man
and quite believable."
Buried
within a transcript of this interview of Marcel were some very revealing
statements that were found by this author. In a response to a question, a
little more than half-way into the interview, Marcel states that well west from
the site that he himself had encountered, that there was another similar site
that was located. Marcel said: "And I learned later that, farther west,
towards Carrizozo they found something like that too...80 miles west of
there..."
Pratt
then asks Marcel about just who it was that "saw something similar out
there?" Marcel replied: "I think that it was discovered by some
surveyor out there."
Well,
of course Barney's crash event was located "farther west" to Marcel's
when Barney saw "something similar" to what was found near Roswell.
But most tellingly, Barney Barnett was a surveyor for the US Soil Conservation
Service! When Marcel mentioned a surveyor, did he mean Barney?
What
is not well known is that the primary duty of Barney's job for the US
Government was to perform land surveying. In fact most of his time was
designated to such surveying activity. He delineated and established property
lines, outlined the parameters of civil and land projects and he created
markers for towns in the region. Barney could often be seen at the County
Surveyor office consulting survey records. Barney also performed civil projects
inspections.
It
is of significance too that Marcel said to Pratt that he had heard that they had found something similar at
the other site. Marcel uses the plural "they," but then he
specifically mentions a surveyor. Of course Barney Barnett was a surveyor that
found a site that others did. Marcel somehow knew that this surveyor was not
alone, but was part of a group (perhaps of archaeologists or military) when the
other site was located.
So
here we have Marcel himself confirming that there was another site. And he
indicates that - like Barney's discovery - it was located many miles away and
much further west from the site that Marcel himself had investigated. Marcel
told his daughter-in-law that (like at the Barnett location) there were bodies
found at that site. He said that the other crash event was similar to what had
happened closer to Roswell. And most remarkably, Marcel said that the
"other site" was found by people including someone that he had
specifically described as "a surveyor." (Was Jesse referring to
Barney?)
We
may never know conclusively. In what may have been his last recorded interview
before he died, Marcel admitted to researcher Linda Corley: "There is a
hell of a lot that I haven't said for the sake of my country."
SITE
SPECIFICS
Is
there a way to reconcile all of the different sites into one authentic account
of the events at Roswell and in New Mexico in the Summer of 1947? The Foster
Ranch site is confirmed, another more interesting site is hinted at - and now
there is the likelihood of even another site, much farther away. The sometimes
vehement disagreement between noted UFO researchers on the "Barney
Barnett" issue only impedes the search for answers.
We
must all agree that the specific number of crash sites - and the precise
location of each - may never be conclusively resolved. We must remain open to
various scenarios. As rancher Loretta Proctor (who saw some of the debris that
rancher Mac Brazel took to her) told me, the craft may have "skipped"
or "leaked" several times and that there was more than one location.
She says that she doesn't have "all of the answers" but she allows
that "maybe there were even two separate UFOs that crashed during roughly
the same time."
Perhaps the crash event near Roswell and the one at the
Plains were the result of two distinctly different UFOs that had fallen not
precisely at the same time, but very close to the same time. Or maybe they were
more intimately related. Possibly they were crashes from the same
"skipping" or "shedding" saucer. This would have involved a
highly-energetic craft with multiple "compartments" that fell in
stages and pieces far and wide in New Mexico. But whatever the exact scenario -
Barney Barnett likely fits into the equation...somehow.
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